Have atheist agendas killed people?

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  1. By MidNight on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

    you are correct
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  2. By The Tao of Atheism. on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

    In Commuism-theory, religious powers were among the elite, who had to be destroyed, so the workers could assume power.

    It's not so much what they believed in as it was that the church was viewed as elite.
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  3. By mattie_blower on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

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  4. By † ІС ХС † †NІКА† on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

    I see it as you see it, 100 + million deaths, 1/5th of which are by Stalin alone, nihilism is destructive to society.

    A popular urban legend that I've often heard is that religion has killed more people than anything else, so the world would be a lot more peaceful place were it not for religion. The top three largest examples are thought to be the Crusades of the Middle Ages, the Spanish Inquisition, and the burning of witches. Scholars estimate that the Crusades of the middle ages cost from 58,000 to 133,000 lives. The most realistic figure for the Spanish Inquisition puts the total killed from AD1480 to AD1808 at up to 31,912. Finally, records indicate that the number of witches killed may be over 30,000. Some argue that records don't tell everything and suggest that maybe even 100,000 were killed. These three events, totaling over 264,000 killed, are thought to be the largest atrocities perpetrated by one or another form of Christendom. As we shall shortly see, however, they pale into insignificance in comparison to the consequences of atheism.

    There are two points to make by way of response. The first point can be made by asking the question, "Are these activities consistent with what Jesus taught?" Most people with even an elementary knowledge of Christ will admit that such killing is inconsistent with His teachings. People often try to justify their hatred, actions, and even killing by appealing to whatever is held in high regard by the population. It follows that if Christianity is or was held in high regard by populations, that certain people with the power to carry out atrocities would attempt to justify them in the name of Christianity. It is a simple-minded person indeed who reasons, "Joe claims he is a Christian–Joe committed an atrocity in the name of Christianity–therefore Christianity promotes atrocities." The Bible states that the person who says he loves God, but hates his brother, is a liar. There are many people through history that have done horrible things in the name of Christianity, but Jesus' words, "you will know them by their fruit" tell the real story regarding their love for God and whether they follow the commands of Jesus Christ.

    The second point to make is that, yes, people who claim to love God do kill, but nowhere near to the extent that the lack of religion does. According to University of Hawaii political scientist Rudolph J. Rummel,[1] <#_ftn1> the total number killed in all of human history is estimated to be about 284,638,000. Of that number, 151,491,000 were killed during the past 100 years. The single largest killer in all of human history is, by far, atheistic Communism with a total of 110,000,000 … over 1/3 of all people ever killed! If we add to that number just two other regimes where religion of any sort was strongly discouraged, Nazi Germany and Nationalist China, the number rises to 141,160,000. Almost 50% of all the killings in human history were committed in the past 100 years by regimes that either actively promoted atheism or strongly discouraged religion. We have not considered the over one billion abortions, where Christianity seems to be particularly unwelcome. When the murders of history are tallied up, it is very clear that atheism is the most dangerous philosophy ever embraced by humanity. The most effective restraint on mankind's inherently evil tendencies is faith in God through Jesus Christ, a faith that actually follows the teachings and commands of Jesus Christ as a daily way of life.

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  5. By dinorapebotextreamactiongun on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

    sure atheists kill people but not in the name of atheism, the examples you gave were those of people wiped up into the same mindless zealotry as religion but to do with a political philosophy.

    i dont think any atheist as gone " SO YOU BELIVE IN GOD HUH! well im gonna kill you and when you see theres no god you come back and say your sorry!"
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  6. By ex nihilo on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

    ABSOLUTELY! Not to mention the Communist massacres in China in the mid 20th century, and don't forget Nazi germany founded on nihilist principles…and…I don't know..there may be a speckling of religious persecution in the 1040 window!
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  7. By emfederin on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

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  8. By holeemel on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

    I happen to be a friendly atheist! Perhaps I can help you! I am not a communist. I have never killed people, nor do I have the desire to become a communist or kill people. Have a nice day:)
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  9. By Sica on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

    The Soviet Union wasn't communism any more than the Westboro Baptist church are Christian.
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  10. By Eldiablo on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

    Communism and atheism are NOT synonymous. The Communist persecutions committed by the likes of Pol Pot, Stalin, and Mao were made to consolidate personal political power for these megalomaniacs. Religions were abolished in these men's countries because they were seen as COMPETITION that could erode their power.

    Nowhere in the whole history of mankind is a recording that a group of rabid atheists banded together, carrying the banner of "Atheism", to commit murder and mayhem on theists. The REVERSE, however, is true (have we already forgotten 9/11?).

    The uneducated jerks who insist that communism and atheism are "linked" are exactly that: Uneducated (and stupid, I might add).

    To Sashmead2001: So churches in Russia went from 54,000 to 500 in the span of 24 years. What part of my answer "Religions were abolished in these men's countries because they were seen as COMPETITION that could erode their power" didn't you understand?

    To Sashmead #2 – I guess the only way I can make you understand what I'm trying to tell you is for you to actually read the biographies of the three biggest murderers of the 20th century (not counting the CHRISTIAN Hitler), where you will see that pure atheistic beliefs played no real part in their quest for power and glory. Btw, Stalin was raised a Christian. He didn't "convert" so much to atheism as much as he embraced the ideals of communism, which in the end was completely perverted and bastardized by him and his minions.

    Hello again, Sashmead: Are you sure Hitler's views were generally anti-religious, or specifically anti-Semite? From what I remember he hated Jews with an abnormal passion, and his lifelong ambition was to create a purely "Aryan" race. He was not just a bigot against Jews, he was a White racist through and through.
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  11. By old know all on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

    More people died in the 20th century from the actions of the atheist warlords Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot than had previously died of violence in the whole of recorded history. The lie that religion has killed people shows that atheists are in denial. Atheism has led to the abandonment of moral values and its byproducts are Aids and abortion. Atheism is a pernicious superstition and death is its hallmark.
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  12. By Daniel R on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

    I think this is a distinction without a difference.

    I agree with the man (Steven Weinberg) who said:
    "With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

    Stalin was an evil person. He would have been evil whether or not he was an atheist.
    The problem is with otherwise well-meaning people, who wouldn't normally do evil things, are led to do so by their religion. This is what doesn't happen with atheism.
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  13. By Skeptic Sage on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

    You should elaborate on your question, a little more. Are you referring to an Atheist Agenda, or the agendas of some Atheists? I know of a lot of Atheists who reject the Communist model of society. I also know some that support it. The Universal Atheist stance is that there is/are no God(s). I, honestly, don't think that has killed anyone, other than the person who has taken that stance, at the hands of religious fundamentalists.

    Edit: I think I know what you meant. My point is, your generalization leaves too much to sepculation. You need to elaborate on more than just anti-religious/theistic beliefs. People in power, no matter what they believe or don't believe, will leave victims in their wake. We have more in common than we have that is different.
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    Agnostic…Atheist, perhaps?

  14. By wynnmanners on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

    Communism & atheism are most *certainly* linked. Josef Stalin & Mao Tze Tung were *atheists*. 10 million people were killed by an atheist agenda in the Soviet Union; 20 million were people killed by an atheist agenda in the Communist Revolution in China.

    The Bolsheviks sent Christians (the families of my grandparents on my mother's side) to Siberia to *die* — because atheists would not tolerate their *religious* belief. (They were basically Lutheran. My grandparents' parents had been "White Russian" migrants from Germany. Catherine the Great gave them land if they'd teach the natives better farming methods. Grandpa escaped the Russian army camp where he'd been inducted by crawling down the toilet hole in the outhouse at the army camp — a guard was at the door — & hightailing it to Germany! He sent back for Grandma & their 2 children. His dad went *back* to Russia, from Canada, to get *his* wife, got caught & got sent to Siberia.)

    Persecution & massive execution has happened fully as much from atheists as from theists. It's time that atheists got *honest* about this. Their criticism of the religions' histories in this area is *valid*… but they need to "fess up" to the excesses of atheism, which are *equally* true.

    Contemporary atheistic *humanists* — who really believe in the The Humanist Manifestos (humane documents, taking a stand for essential Human Rights) — would, i am sure, *never* support persecution & killing people in the manner of the atheistic Communist Revolutions & the theistic Crusades, Inquisition, Witch Hunts & Islamic jihads.


    [Links below to Humanist Manifesto II & The Affirmations of Humanism: A Statement of Principles.]]
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  15. By limerickdogred on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

    i have never heard of atheist armies setting out to kill people who believe differently to them but i have heard of chritian armies doing that
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  16. By CG on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

    An agenda is a sheet of paper giving details of a meeting. I don't see how that can kill anyone.

    Seriously, though, Communist persecution of religion is entirely because to follow a religion gives a person another allegiance, which undermines loyalty to the Communist state. It's nothing to do with atheism in itself. Communists are necessarily atheist as a result, but of course, not all atheists are Communists.
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  17. By Samalamlam on Jan 23, 2009 | Reply

    For the last time,you can't group people by atheism, it's a lack of belief not a belief.
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