Comments on: If atheism claims no dogma then atheists have no absolute morality, doesn't that mean athiests have amorality

By: catwhisperer07

catwhisperer07 — Sat, 31 May 2008 10:23:55 +0000

My 'dogma', the scientific laws of the Universe. DNA rules the world.
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By: Blue Rizla Girl

Blue Rizla Girl — Sat, 31 May 2008 07:19:48 +0000

I don't see what your problem is, because sometimes there **are** no moral absolutes.

There are some — admittedly, extraordinarily highly contrived — situations where "the right thing to do" might involve stealing, killing or even raping, **if** that would prevent something much worse from happening elsewhere. Situations where it would be very easy for a Christian just to shrug and say "Well, God will take care of it", not do the necessary and let the Even Worse Thing happen; as opposed to making a very uncomfortable decision with which they will have to live for the rest of their lives.

For about 95% of the time, it's sufficient just to treat others in a way in which you would not object to being treated by them; and remember, "a situation is not desperate if it can be handled without resort to desperate measures" and "means which are of unequal validity serve different ends". (Put that way around, they make you think a little bit harder.)

If that's what you call moral relativism, then I can't see why it's so undesirable.
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By: Citizen CoR WBH TFS

Citizen CoR WBH TFS — Sat, 31 May 2008 07:06:19 +0000

"Dogma" is not a synonym for "rationally justified belief." In fact, it is the antonym

Epic fail.
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By: Charlie on the T

Charlie on the T — Sat, 31 May 2008 07:04:50 +0000

Atheism is a religion. It has its own doctrines, its own sacred writings, its own prophets and its own shallow emotional appeals. It has an established but narrowly-disputed stance about things like death, heaven/hell, sin, love, purpose, creation, and repentence. It has critics, proponents, and plenty of internet trolls.
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By: yaknow2

yaknow2 — Sat, 31 May 2008 07:03:00 +0000

one might say atheists are 'on the fence' about a 'superior being'. doesnt mean they dont acquire manners, morals or civilities
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By: Maurog

Maurog — Sat, 31 May 2008 07:02:33 +0000

Absolute morality doesn't exist. The most obvious example is slavery.
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By: Dashes

Dashes — Sat, 31 May 2008 07:02:07 +0000

Being good requires no divine permission. It's that simple.
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By: Mikey

Mikey — Sat, 31 May 2008 07:01:25 +0000

i have morals.. just not YOUR morals
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By: USA Is An Atheist Nation

USA Is An Atheist Nation — Sat, 31 May 2008 07:01:13 +0000

If you say so. Based on the question, no answer other than "Yes" will satisfy you.
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By: Super Nintendo Chalmers

Super Nintendo Chalmers — Sat, 31 May 2008 07:00:36 +0000

Whoa, slow down there skippy. No one has absolute morality, not even you. Claiming you have it would be hubris.
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