Comparing religions with atheism
Written by admin on September 16, 2008 – 4:33 pm -Tags: atheism, christianity, funny, islam, judaism, religions
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Tags: atheism, christianity, funny, islam, judaism, religions
Posted in Judaism and Atheism | 25 Comments »
By fromfictiontofact on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
Why is death “the …
Why is death “the only penalty that will fulfill justice”?
Because there can only be one perfectly just penalty.
“They died, therefor justice has been fulfilled”
The second death is a spiritual one, not a physical one.
By somecomputergeek on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
Let me rephrase …
Let me rephrase again:
Why is death “the only penalty that will fulfill justice”? Because it just is? Because that’s the way God made things?
Should we change our criminal justice system? The death penalty for all crimes? Also, if death fulfills this justice, why should anyone burn in hell. They died, therefor justice has been fulfilled.
By fromfictiontofact on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
“my morality has …
“my morality has been refined over time”
my morality was changed in an instant, when I receive the Holy Spirit through faith in Jesus Christ. Only through the Spirit were my eyes opened to sin and morality, without it, I would be blind.
“We are both different than we were years ago. We’ve both improved. The difference is… I’m not done improving yet”
And I am? ^^ lol dude, no ones perfect, everyone wants to improve in some way.
Also once again, I’m not talking about years, I mean instantly.
By fromfictiontofact on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
again please read …
again please read more carefully
I said “an Atheist movement”
not “the Atheist movement”
if you are going to quote me, quote correctly.
“If I kill and rape babies all day long, but one day repent, HONESTLY give myself to Jesus, and stop doing it, am I forgiven?”
If you repent, turn from your sin, put your faith in Jesus, give Him your life, grieve over your sin and live a lifestyle of holiness for Him, confessing your sins and pleading for forgiveness, yes, you will be forgiven.
By fromfictiontofact on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
“Why is The Penalty …
“Why is The Penalty for Sin death?”
Because death is the only penalty that will fulfill justice. And as God is a just judge, that is what He HAS to do, otherwise He wouldn’t be just.
By somecomputergeek on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
If that is what you …
If that is what you believe morality is, then I am not, nor do I want to be, as “moral” as you.
I don’t agree with your dichotomy of “before I lived for self, now I live for God”. There are lots of events in my life that have changed me, and my morality has been refined over time. A brush with death made appreciate life. Being poor made me recognize the value of hard work.
We are both different than we were years ago. We’ve both improved. The difference is… I’m not done improving yet.
By somecomputergeek on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
I already knew this …
I already knew this would be your answer and answered this in the question itself.
Let me rephrase:
Why is “The Penalty for Sin” death?
By somecomputergeek on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
10) I’m NOT a ” …
10) I’m NOT a “sinner”, as “sin” is defined in religious terms. “sin” does not exist outside of religious interpretation.
11) yes.
12) No.
13) No. If you are talking about actions that I think are immoral, no, I don’t justify them. I take responsibility for them.
14) I don’t know what that means.
15) No. I make sacrifices for the sake of ethics and morality. Everyone does, but to live for this reason alone is idiotic.
By somecomputergeek on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
1) I do my best to …
No. I offer respect when deserved, charity when needed, friendship when reciprocated, and basic decency to all.
1) I do my best to remain honest.
2) Not since I was a kid. I don’t even steal software/music.
3) Nope. Never (that I can think of)
4) Yes. I don’t find anything immoral about this.
5) Yes, I’m a male, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
6) Same as #4.
7) No, but I try to be understanding.
9) No. I’m not an idiot.
By fromfictiontofact on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
The difference …
The difference between me and you, is probably the same as the difference between the now believing me and the previous unbelieving me.
When I was an unbeliever, I lived for self.
When I became a beliver, I live for God.
The self, does not want to sacrifise, the self is selfish and does not care as it ought.
God, wants you to sacrifise anything & everything that even risks something in the slightest way immoral.
I live for perfect morality.
If you do not, you won’t be as moral.
By fromfictiontofact on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
put it this way… …
put it this way…
1 Do you lie?
2 steal?
3 cheat?
4 critize others?
5 look at women in a sexual manor?
6 judge others?
7 love your enemies?
8 love your neighbour as yourself?
9 forgive a person no matter how many times they did you wrong?
10 grieved by the fact that you are a sinner? 11 Obsessed with doing what is right & good? 12 Desperate to be like Jesus? (perfect)
13 weep over you sin? Or justify it?
14 live for morality?
15 live a life of sacrifise for moralities sake?
By somecomputergeek on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
“It does.”
Yeah, as …
“It does.”
Yeah, as long as you don’t bother looking at any FACTS or anything.
I’m sure that your version of morality suits you, and that’s fine. However, you are saying that you, as a Christian are morally superior to me, as an atheist. However, as a Christian, you justify genocide, torture, and ignorance in the name of God. These are things that I do not find morally acceptable.
Seriously, watch the video:
watch?v=94f2h-5TvbM
By somecomputergeek on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
“That statement was …
“That statement was based on what the founder of an Atheist movement in the US said”
FOUNDER of the Atheist movement? There is no such thing. Atheism has about as much of a “foundation” as a hammock.
If I kill and rape babies all day long, but one day repent, HONESTLY give myself to Jesus, and stop doing it, am I forgiven?
By fromfictiontofact on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
“do you know WHY …
“do you know WHY God demanded a human sacrifice?”
“All Have Sinned and Fall Short of the Glory of God” (Romans 3:23)
“The Penalty for Sin is Death” (Romans 6:23)
that’s why, but…
“the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
The short answer, God has to fulfill justice, as God is just.
By fromfictiontofact on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
“This implies that …
“This implies that you think atheism leads to “immoral” behavior”
It does. I was no where near as moral as I am now, one year ago when I was an unbeliever, to me, based on the teachings of scripture and my personal experience, there is no way you can say true Christians aren’t more moral. When you compare the teachings of the world to the morally perfect teachings of the Bible, you can clearly see, the Bible wins on the moral code contest. The world is morally flawed, but Jesus is perfect.
By fromfictiontofact on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
“This is called …
“This is called Nihilism, not atheism”
That statement was based on what the founder of an Atheist movement in the US said, so clearly at least some atheists hold to that belief.
“A Christian could say “there is no judgment so you can get away with whatever you want as long as you accept Jesus into your heart”"
Actually no you can’t. The word repent ring a bell? We can’t do anything, if we do, we’re not Christian, some may say they are, but they also have to live like they are.
By somecomputergeek on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
So I should change …
So I should change “nobody knows” to “I knows”?
I’m assuming you are a Christian. As a Christian, do you know WHY God demanded a human sacrifice? I’m thinking that your answer amounts to some kind of “perfect morality”, and that this “perfect morality” is based on God, but it still doesn’t answer the question as to WHY God thinks a human sacrifice is a part of “perfect morality”.
By somecomputergeek on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
“Therefore there is …
“Therefore there is no moral code to abide by”
This is called Nihilism, not atheism.
“there is no judgment so you can get away with whatever you want as long as no one catches you”
A Christian could say “there is no judgment so you can get away with whatever you want as long as you accept Jesus into your heart”
This implies that you think atheism leads to “immoral” behavior, but nothing could be further from the truth:
watch?v=94f2h-5TvbM
By fromfictiontofact on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
Since you didn’t …
Since you didn’t put a description for atheism I’ll do it for you.
“The invisible man in the sky doesn’t exist. Therefore there is no moral code to abide by as there is no moral law giver, there is no judgment so you can get away with whatever you want as long as no one catches you. You don’t have to compare yourself to a divine and perfect God, only fallen wicked humans, as long as your better then someone else, you can justify yourself. You don’t have to feel guilt, everyone does it.” etc
By fromfictiontofact on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
just change the ” …
just change the “nobody” to “I” and you’re spot on!
By Gabebro1 on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
loves it!
loves it!
By somecomputergeek on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
It actually stands …
It actually stands for atheism. The anarchy A is usually a red circle with an “a” scratched into it, like here:
mondotees. com/ProductImages/anarchyred. jpg
By 1nedward on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
The A at the end is …
The A at the end is the Anarchy “A”
By somecomputergeek on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
Any kind of Deistic …
Any kind of Deistic belief is inherently unscientific. Science is a method for discovering new facts about the natural world and attempting to explain them, nothing more. There is no “science” to DO when we are talking about thing that are OUTSIDE of our natural world and hence untestable.
“The things we deists attribute to God you atheists attribute to something else.”
I don’t “attribute” unknowns to anything. What is so scary about admitting that you don’t know?
By tmahowald on Sep 16, 2008 | Reply
Surely theories …
Surely theories such as the Big Bang and Evolution were thought up as an alternative to deism, though I understand these two are just the most widely accepted theories for those who choose to deny God’s existence. If you don’t believe in these theories then you must believe in some other similar theory that attempts to explain creation without a Supreme Being.
The things we deists attribute to God you atheists attribute to something else. It’s still a religion, just with a different origin.