yeah i agree, and … yeah i agree, and sorry about before mate, i realised that i was the one with misleading info, i will look into the adams quote too
Franklin is … Franklin is probably best described as a Deist. He definitely believed in a God, but was very skeptical of churches and religion. I think he saw God as a bit more active than many other Deists, but you couldn’t call him religious or a member of any particular religion. Certainly not Christian.
The Adams quote is just fake and embarassing to perpetuate.
hey what do you … hey what do you know your right.
i just did a bet more diging up on franklin and it turns out he was a beleiver, maybe not a christian but atleast a deist.
I always heard that … I always heard that quote you attribute to Lincoln as being from PT Barnum too. Just go to “Lincoln wikiquote” and you will see they list it as disputed and explain its first origin. Google “Barnum fool” and you will see some others say it was Barnum too.
no my firend i … no my firend i think i understood it just now. franklin is taking about faith as being the candle (“put out your candle”) read it carefully. also could you please put some links to your sources. if your right then i will remove or edit this video. thanks
There was a pretty … There was a pretty big controversy about that BBC documentary at the time. Their lack of embarrasment about quoting non-quotes was moderately well dicussed in media circles. John Adams is a favorite of mine, any Adams scholar would pick that out quickly as something he would never say.
most of my quotes … most of my quotes are taken from wiki. what are your sources? also i did not claim that all these people are atheists because some of them are not. but non of them seem to favour an religion (i.e islam, chirstianity, etc) that’s the whole point of this video. they are free-thinker / free minds
We rag on … We rag on Christians for quote mining, so you should not use that one by Franklin about shutting the eye of reason. His full quote implies the opposite of what your truncated version does.
Also, most scholars don’t believe Lincoln said the first quote you used. It 1st appeared 30 years later & many attribute it to PT Barnum instead.
That Adams quote never appeared anywhere before 2005 in a BBC documentary, & when challenged they later admitted it was their own paraphrase of another quote.
They remind me of … They remind me of all my professors. I love intelligent people who realize that we are here to better the planet and have as much fun as possible before we die.
By m007417 on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
thanks mate
thanks mate
By coolbeens21 on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
I cant stand people …
I cant stand people like Atheistwomyn, dumb wanna be know it all bitch.
Nice vid m007417 I enjoyed it immensely =)
By m007417 on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
yeah i agree, and …
yeah i agree, and sorry about before mate, i realised that i was the one with misleading info, i will look into the adams quote too
By AtheistWomyn on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
Franklin is …
Franklin is probably best described as a Deist. He definitely believed in a God, but was very skeptical of churches and religion. I think he saw God as a bit more active than many other Deists, but you couldn’t call him religious or a member of any particular religion. Certainly not Christian.
The Adams quote is just fake and embarassing to perpetuate.
By m007417 on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
hey what do you …
hey what do you know your right.
i just did a bet more diging up on franklin and it turns out he was a beleiver, maybe not a christian but atleast a deist.
thanks mate, always happy to be shown the truth
By lanastompanato on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
I always heard that …
I always heard that quote you attribute to Lincoln as being from PT Barnum too. Just go to “Lincoln wikiquote” and you will see they list it as disputed and explain its first origin. Google “Barnum fool” and you will see some others say it was Barnum too.
By m007417 on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
By AtheistWomyn on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
The Franklin quote …
The Franklin quote is from Poor Richard’s Almanac, 1758, in the Chapter “On Virtue, Vice, God, And Faith” and it states in full:
“The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason: the morning daylight appears plainer when you put out your candle.”
That statement really is the opposite of the way you & others are using it. Franklin was lauding faith, not the opposite
Since we have so many good quotes to use, many from Franklin himself on religion, like the lighthouse one, why cheat?
By AtheistWomyn on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
There was a pretty …
There was a pretty big controversy about that BBC documentary at the time. Their lack of embarrasment about quoting non-quotes was moderately well dicussed in media circles. John Adams is a favorite of mine, any Adams scholar would pick that out quickly as something he would never say.
By m007417 on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
most of my quotes …
most of my quotes are taken from wiki. what are your sources? also i did not claim that all these people are atheists because some of them are not. but non of them seem to favour an religion (i.e islam, chirstianity, etc) that’s the whole point of this video. they are free-thinker / free minds
By AtheistWomyn on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
We rag on …
We rag on Christians for quote mining, so you should not use that one by Franklin about shutting the eye of reason. His full quote implies the opposite of what your truncated version does.
Also, most scholars don’t believe Lincoln said the first quote you used. It 1st appeared 30 years later & many attribute it to PT Barnum instead.
That Adams quote never appeared anywhere before 2005 in a BBC documentary, & when challenged they later admitted it was their own paraphrase of another quote.
By Transfectingood on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
They remind me of …
They remind me of all my professors. I love intelligent people who realize that we are here to better the planet and have as much fun as possible before we die.
By m007417 on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
beethoven no.4
beethoven no.4
By Zoaguyver on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
hey what concerto …
hey what concerto is it thats playing in the background?
By m007417 on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
cheers mate
cheers mate
By TXHalabi on Aug 16, 2009 | Reply
Nice collection of …
Nice collection of quotes. Thanks for posting