Sam Harris defends atheists AND Christians from past tyrants

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25 Responses to “Sam Harris defends atheists AND Christians from past tyrants”

  1. By RainMan34 on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    The guy in the …
    The guy in the audience asking Harris questions sounds like Frank Oz.

  2. By RainMan34 on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    You converted an …
    You converted an atheist in college?

    Wow. Congratulations. YOU’RE STILL AN IDIOT.

  3. By kbonez2 on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    Okay, interesting …
    Okay, interesting debate you guys have going on here, but I just wanted to hop in with the fact that eye witness accounts are the worst forms of evidence in a court of law. Hundreds of psychological studies have been done to show that a witnesses account of an event is easily manipulated after the fact and that the witness will then be utterly convinced of the new data (a cop tells a witness that the car in the accident was blue when it was really red and the witness swears they saw a blue car)

  4. By kbonez2 on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    I happen to agree …
    I happen to agree with you, but debating that point with theists distracts from the more important aspect of the discussion, which is that a non-belief in God doesn’t mean you must dogmatically do anything. It simply means you won’t allow a religious leader or book to tell you what to do.

  5. By G0dmaster on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    Arrognorant, in …
    Arrognorant, in other words

  6. By blahblah7949 on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    i know people like …
    i know people like you in college they seem nice and spiritual but deep down they are like you arrogant and ignorant.

  7. By blahblah7949 on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    this guy is …
    this guy is brilliant

  8. By mrluke13 on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    Harris is a joke in …
    Harris is a joke in all honesty, & his supporters say the same dumb thing.

    ” I THINK, I THINK, he is telling the truth I THINK, I THINK, we can reconcile atheism and morals”

    BUT YOU ARE NEVER CITING ANYTHING! YOU PEOPLE KEEP COMMENTING ON ME & I READ YOUR MESSAGES & LAUGH.

    ALL I EVER GET IS “I THINK I THINK”!

    Theres no such thing as atheism I converted an atheist in COLLEGE. HE SAID ABOUT HIS GIRLFRIEND SHE WAS HIS SOUL MATE, HE LOVED HER FOREVER, & IT WOULD BE EVIL FOR HER TO SUFFER

  9. By kbonez2 on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    C’mon man, you …
    C’mon man, you don’t honestly believe that? If you don’t like the guy thats cool, but he supports the war in Iraq specifically because the majority of people over there have been ruled by a tyrant and despotic ruler who he wants to see removed. He supports the MAJORITY of people over there, so he certainly wouldn’t support bombing the people he wants to see freed. I don’t agree with him, but to say he’s supports hatred and death to Iraqi’s is simply a lie. And he criticizes Bush consistently.

  10. By MrBlondeVicVega on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    Yes, Hitchens has …
    Yes, Hitchens has valid reasons, valid evil reasons. And I am sorry, he does blindly support Bush, for the most part. Maybe he wants to see Iraqis dead.

    My point is he is as much of a hate preacher as the religious nut cases are. Of course he has the right to argue what he wants, that doesn’t (as you very honestly put it) mean they are right.

    If he had his hand on the trigger, he will push the button to nuke the Middle East.

    Albeit he is a smart man, but with a very ugly evil twist.

  11. By kbonez2 on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    Again, an …
    Again, an oversimplification. Hitchens has valid reasons for supporting the war in Iraq. I happen to disagree with him on them, but he has every right to believe them and argue for them. He doesn’t blindly support Bush and has been extremely critical of many of the things he has done, and he has legitimately criticized Kerry/Gore/Clinton because all those men have done things worthy of criticism. He’s a free thinker, which deserves respect even if, like me, you don’t support all his ideas.

  12. By MrBlondeVicVega on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    I used to have …
    I used to have respect for Hitchens but not anymore. He shares the other side of the coin with Christian fundamentalists and Muslim extremists at one side.

    I think he is a smart man but definitely an evil one too. He literary said that Bush is the better person to fight the war on terror than Gore or Kerry, not to mention he defames Clinton and praises Bush. He supported invasion of Iraq.

    If this was being said by someone with a faith, you’ll be calling that guy an idiot.

  13. By kbonez2 on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    Or rather, it is to …
    Or rather, it is to say that the root cause of Stalin and Hitlers atrocities were their mustaches. These are correlates, not causes. Their percieved atheism was not the reason that they committed those murders, and to try and blame it on atheism is mere scape-goating and grasping at straws.

  14. By kbonez2 on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    I think you’re …
    I think you’re missing much of the nuance in Hitchens arguments.

  15. By kbonez2 on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    Harris makes the …
    Harris makes the same point that has countered every theists attempt to attack atheism in this very video. Being atheist doesn’t preclude you from being capable of terrible things, just like being religious doesn’t make you a saint or a monster. For your point to be relevant AT ALL then Stalin and Hitler must have killed those people BECAUSE of their belief that there is no God. They killed those people in their quest for power, not due to their atheism (which, btw, Hitler was a Roman-Catholic

  16. By mrluke13 on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    its because the …
    its because the math involved requires a 3rd grade comprehension

  17. By cjdaweasel on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    LOL. That post …
    LOL. That post makes no sense.

  18. By mrluke13 on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    yeah right….over …
    yeah right….over 4 centuries the crusades killed a little over 2000 people the witch hunts killed 14 people…..the inquisition killed over 800 people

    RECENT ATHEISTS IN THE LAST 75 YEARS …..OVER ONE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE

    atheist lose another point….

    God= 785,985,944,120,,369,121 points

    Atheists= 0

  19. By cjdaweasel on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    Never have such …
    Never have such good men done such horrible things than in the name of god.

  20. By AllGlory2DaHypnoToad on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    rofl.
    yet religion …

    rofl.
    yet religion will cause bad men to do good things.
    you know, the more you genuinly try to get to know people, and the less you try to break things you don’t understand, the more you’ll realize the world’s problems don’t come from one source.
    lets not repeat history with this whole scape goat sherade.

  21. By Packitlikesardines on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    Why don’t we all …
    Why don’t we all take cheap shots at the Franco regime in Spain – anyone follow? – officially backed up by the catholic church….

  22. By AntEyeTheist on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    Good men do good …
    Good men do good things and bad men do bad things, it’s only with RELIGION do good men to do bad things.

  23. By Renzosuken on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    So then why were …
    So then why were God with us inscribed on the belts of his nazi soldiers?

  24. By ma406302 on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    Hitler was born to …
    Hitler was born to Roman Catholic parents–he was not a practicing Roman Catholic. He is actually often labeled an Atheist.

    Hitler’s religious beliefs are highly debatable, but it’s unfair to label him a Roman Catholic with any certainty whatsoever. The Third Reich was an irreligious institution.

    To make a historic comparison:
    Hitler was a Roman Catholic in the same way Albert Einstein was Jewish. The significance was cultural, not spiritual.

  25. By JimGunning on Apr 16, 2009 | Reply

    Hitchens doesn’t …
    Hitchens doesn’t hold religion accountable for all the bad things that happen in the world. Only for the many good things it has corrupted. He says that religion poisons everything, not that only religion poisons.

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