Former Atheist Proves God With Early Christian Writings & Lee Strobel’s Books (1/2)

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25 Responses to “Former Atheist Proves God With Early Christian Writings & Lee Strobel’s Books (1/2)”

  1. By coolcat11011 on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    yup, there are …
    yup, there are unicorns there.. unicorns are mostly found in the Old Testament, specially in Job, Psalms, Isaiah and Deuteronomy..

    and they use these unicorns as a defense to Christians..

  2. By spinkwotzer on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    Erm, are there …
    Erm, are there unicorns in the Bible? Are you sure you’re not having us on here?

  3. By spinkwotzer on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    I don’t think he …
    I don’t think he became any more emotional than anyone else would if someone was constantly talking over them and refusing to listen.

    If you’re going to call a radio show, I think you should be able to make your point clear and to argue it properly, and I don’t think this guy did at all.

  4. By coolcat11011 on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    its because Matt is …
    its because Matt is so close minded here and would not listen to the point of the caller, thats why theres no point anymore to talk to Matt.. thats why he went off…

    In arguments, you should avoid being emotional.. that’s how a good argument should be.. but Matt here became emotional and did not listen carefully to the caller..

  5. By coolcat11011 on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    If God is there and …
    If God is there and did that, then, Free will is no longer availabe.. doctors would not be available… challenges would not be available.. and this life would be boring to live…

  6. By coolcat11011 on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    your right about …
    your right about here.. :) i agree with you..

  7. By coolcat11011 on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    but its sad that he …
    but its sad that he studied the Bible for 20 years the wrong way and he’s explaining it the wrong way. there are correct ways how to study the Bible and one important thing is by studying the context.Matt is wrong with most, if not all, about all the videos i watched that he said about the bible.. an example of this would be Unicorns. he treated Unicorns literally.. but if you’ll study how unicorns are used in the bible, its not reffering to the ‘fairy-tale’ animal.

  8. By thenigotoffthebus on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    I have difficulty …
    I have difficulty believing your not just a troll…poe’s law & all that but on the off chance you’re not…

    How come prayer & faith only seem to be able to cure things that can also cure perfectly naturally. Slipped discs & even cancer going into remission happen all the time. How come new organs or limbs never miraculously appear? If god is real there would be no problem in creating a new organ…but it NEVER happens.

    Simple logic: If I exist, and I do, Why couldn’t Leprechauns exists?

  9. By spinkwotzer on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    Cowardly, yes, but …
    Cowardly, yes, but also, it seemed like the guy wasn’t interested in listening from the beginning. He was only interested in talking. When Matt wouldn’t shut up and listen to him, he went off and sulked. What a baby.

  10. By spinkwotzer on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    “Absence of …
    “Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence.”

    No, absence of evidence isn’t evidence of anything, obviously, but let’s not come to any important conclusions without evidence. I think that’s all anyone’s saying, and it’s pretty hard to argue with, in my oinion.

  11. By spinkwotzer on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    I’m glad he made …
    I’m glad he made that comment about Lee Strobel playing up his own scepticism, because that’s exactly what I thought when I read (some of) his book. He acted like he was being sceptical, while colluding with his interviewees all the time. I don’t consider “the case for Christ” to be an honest book, and therefore I don’t see a great deal of value in it.

  12. By SexyMelon on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    “quick note, there …
    “quick note, there is no such thing as an “ex-atheist” .. a “former atheist” doesn’t exist because anyone who was ever truly an atheist never.. I repeat… never turns back.”
    You’re asking a bit too much. People do change their minds and their beliefs, for better or worse. Happens all the time.

  13. By SexyMelon on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    “Matt here is wrong …
    “Matt here is wrong.. he should search a lot about the Gospel and those who write these things! He’s saying that he knwos a lot and explain these things but he’s wrong!!”
    Um… He was a fundie for about 20 years and actually studied the Bible as part of his education programme towards becoming a priest. Fun stuff, I know.

    Coincidentally, he’s right on pretty much every account he mentions. Although I’m not sure about recognition of Josephus (how do you spell it) passages, kinda hard to verify.

  14. By Muchodelcrazy on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    I figured an …
    I figured an all-powerful God, apparently able to heal you, could show somebody his existence in an observable manner. Instead of thinking maybe you were dreaming, or seeing what you saw because of your illness, you believe in an entire new world.

    Two words: Batshit insane.

  15. By CapnOrdinary on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    If you are right, …
    If you are right, and there is a god, and salvation depends on believing in this god, and this god has shown himself to you, then that god is evil. Because if salvation depends on faith, then why do you alone out of all of us get to have incontrovertible proof, while the rest of us don’t? If you are right, then your god has chosen you to be saved, and has chosen to torture the rest of us for eternity because he doesn’t want to give us the same verification he gave you. That is evil and vicious.

  16. By CapnOrdinary on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    Wrong. All theists …
    Wrong. All theists are former atheists. We are born without a belief in god(s) (ie. atheists), and only through theist brainwashing is such a thing as a theist brought into existence.

    What you mean to say is that there’s no such thing as a former skeptic. And there, I think, you would be correct. But not all atheists are skeptics (sadly).

  17. By coolcat11011 on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    Matt here is wrong. …
    Matt here is wrong.. he should search a lot about the Gospel and those who write these things! He’s saying that he knwos a lot and explain these things but he’s wrong!!

    How would the apostles write the gospels completely!while they were with Jesus and their lives are in danger because of those unbelievers before! of course, they will be able to finish the writings after a few years.. but look! they wrote the gospels less than 90years after Christ died!

  18. By coolcat11011 on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    ooops! thats wrong …
    ooops! thats wrong my friend.. there ARE ex-atheist! and I know someone who is a practicing Christian and already proclaiming the Good News, leading a Bible study and posting videos regarding his beliefs before as an atheist and why he turned back and become a Christian! :)

  19. By phillz86 on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    quick note, there …
    quick note, there is no such thing as an “ex-atheist” .. a “former atheist” doesn’t exist because anyone who was ever truly an atheist never.. I repeat… never turns back. Anyone who claims so is either 1. flat out lying or 2. was simply a Non-practicing Christian, Muslim ect. that mistook their lack of participation as atheism. Period.

  20. By MTGandP on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    Hey look, finally …
    Hey look, finally an intelligent caller! At least, kind of intelligent…

  21. By Belle19700 on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    How can I give you …
    How can I give you observable evidence? I was the observer, and I say what happened. What else can I do?
    Look, I am 58 years old, honest, sober, not high, and never been delusional. I felt the man who wore sandals, and a white robe, physically touch my head. It’s the truth. There is another world right here, that we can’t see. Look for it. Seek truth. Follow your instincts. Stay away from popular holy books. Choose your own books. Do it son. I’m right. You’re not.

  22. By Muchodelcrazy on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    Oooh! What if …
    Oooh! What if you’re right, I’ve never heard that! What if, despite all the evidence against your position, and lack of OBSERVABLE evidence for all to see for your position, you’re somehow right.

    Why answer that question? Why assume you even COULD be right when your opinion contradicts everything properly observed? I don’t assume that Zeus exists, or even could exist. Or pixies. Or flying pigs. I can’t treat every little fairy tail like it’s plausible.

    u r crazy or mistaken is more likely

  23. By DivineOverlord666 on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    The difference is …
    The difference is that we have solid, undeniable proof that sweden exists but don’t have ANY evidence of the supernatural to go on, except people saying they have experienced it.

    In a court of law, scientific study or any other means of finding the ‘truth’ (or our best plausible answer for that ‘truth’), anecdotal, testimonial evidence is the LEAST RELIABLE evidence there is.

    unless you can prove what you claim about extraordinary events, then i’m not going to believe you on any of them.

  24. By MusicOfEpirus on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    Every religious …
    Every religious person is a Former-Atheist.

    God is taught.

  25. By DorkmanScott on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply

    Actually, there is. …
    Actually, there is.

    You can say “Here is the evidence,” and present it.

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