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1. By Huckxxx on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

   ‘its like having an …
   ‘its like having an opinion about cancer when you dont have it’

   ‘society and its flow, is not a scientific subject that you can confine in the constraints of logically rigorous theory’

   and you’re a sociologist, are you?

2. By Euclid420 on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

   Harris dominated …
   Harris dominated Hedges without looking at any papers or studdering

3. By Neeboopsh on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

   and i think what …
   and i think what hedges, and others, define god as, is just plain stupid. its nothing useful. you may as well be allowed to label your shoe, or anxiety, or math, as “god”. what is the point of a non-personal god which has such a definition. “peace is god” well, then sure. but now what is your point? you have faith in something that is already defined as something literal and real? good job. gold star. way to sit on the fence in such a way that you legitimize crazy beliefs and still not be wrong

4. By thehumburger on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

   So far these two …
   So far these two are debating completely different things. Harris criticizes conventional religious beliefs, yet Hedges defines religion differently than what the conventionsl beliefs are. His beliefs are more spirituality than dogmatic religion and, as the moderator pointed out, are actually not too incompatible with atheism.

5. By HumanStrategy on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

   Yes, I have never …
   Yes, I have never met two Christians that believe the same thing with regards to Jesus, history of Christianity, god etc

6. By HumanStrategy on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

   Agreed. The …
   Agreed. The justifications they give against such a simple concept shows their inherently credulousness and arrogance.

7. By ndyt on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

   Agreed, and every …
   Agreed, and every religious person I have ever met has created their own religion.

8. By ColoradoMikeyS on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

   God is Santa Claus …
   God is Santa Claus for adults.

9. By shankyxyz on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

   hey stop callling …
   hey stop callling ppl who disagree with harris, intellectual dwarfs. his arguments are classical reductionist arguments which are always generally false when overextended. also society and its flow, is not a scientific subject that you can confine in the constraints of logically rigorous theory. lot of it is expereience. in that regards harris is a complete moron.

10. By modemkorv on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    Many intellectual …
    Many intellectual dwarfs writing their opinions here. Please READ THE TOPIC OF THE VIDEO. Harris is extremely aware of the consequences of religious belief.

11. By shankyxyz on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    hedges has seen …
    hedges has seen killing,hatred,murder.harris is the product of a lazy elitist bourgeoise society, which hasnt seen depravation,denial,hunger or terrorism.such ppl are welcome to have opinions,but its like having an opinion about cancer when you dont have it.he doesnt realise if you are palestinain whose family was kiled,the only hope that you get is from this abstract concept called god.i dont belive in god,but i can see its role in ppl’s lives,who have been pushed to the edge.

12. By davidatheist on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    Hedges seems to be …
    Hedges seems to be defining his own religion and defending it as infinitely good. He is not taking into account the people that believe the scriptures.

13. By Oxygaunt on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    So what if its just …
    So what if its just Harris’ opinion? Its a good opinion that makes logical sense. I wouldn’t care if it was some random hobo saying it.
    Now I don’t know what Hedges has done previously in his life and I don’t really care. I’m just saying I wasn’t impressed by his performance/logic here and thats really all that counts.

14. By cruelfate45 on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    Are you kidding me? …
    Are you kidding me? Sam Harris wrote some books, other than that he is just talking out of his ass, it’s all his opinion. Hedges has been all over the place, studied people at there best and worst. He also studied Theology. He knows what he is talking about. Harris is just saying what you want to hear, however intellectually shallow and off the mark it may be.

15. By cruelfate45 on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    I agree. But you …
    I agree. But you have a bunch of gullible people here, just like the gullible masses enchanted by the Christian Fundamentalists, who are only watching this to get their daily dose of New Atheism, because Harris tells them what they want to hear. They ignore rationality, and the far more intellectual and realistic view presented by Chris Hedges, because it completely destroys idiots like Sam Harris from the onset.

16. By adehmark on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    Yeah, but you don’t …
    Yeah, but you don’t need religion or a god to love your neighbour or to be virtuous.

17. By ofssk on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    Hedges point on …
    Hedges point on tribalism is spot and is obvious with everything not just religion.
    Why dont people just listen with an open mind as both men raise great points.

18. By LordAtheistCrusader on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    You obviously cant …
    You obviously cant listen, you moron.

19. By ofssk on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    Read the debate …
    Read the debate title you idiot

20. By papasitoman on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    Hedges DID avoid …
    Hedges DID avoid the argument. His speech was eloquent and smart. BUT he is an idealist and ignores every single bad part that comes directly from believing in one of these religions. Chris is smart and could really contribute but he needs to be much more specific.

21. By kclymer1 on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    This kind of makes …
    This kind of makes me sad. I like both Sam Harris and Chris Hedges. I have read both of their books, and I reccomend them both. I like debates where the opponent is someone I dislike.

22. By AndrewDewittBaker on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    hahahaha, sam …
    hahahaha, sam doesn’t even have to talk, the commentator owns hedges before sam even gets a chance to.

    you know you’re bad when that happens.

    hahahaha

23. By Oxygaunt on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    Agreed. He’s quite …
    Agreed. He’s quite the lamer.

24. By ShaggusMcPhallus on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    Hedges is out of …
    Hedges is out of his depth.

25. By XBmX4everX on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply

    Chris Hedges should …
    Chris Hedges should be stoned!